BirdbyBird wrote:Best of Breed Owner Handled. (History: Josef went two years in a row and came home with the honors.) Josef's advantage for at least one of those years was a judge that had a history of placing Blue Roans more often that solid color English Cockers. This year's judge is known to both Cindy and I and our experience is that he really likes a nice solid colored (Solid black or solid red dog or bitch). So Cindy has been trying to figure out of the ten dogs eligible, who are all very nice, which if any of the owners of the solids are going to actually show up. You can't win if you don't show up. But it is an expensive Best of Breed Owner Handled. (History: Josef went two years in a row and came home with the honors.) Josef's advantage for at least one of those years was a judge that had a history of placing Blue Roans more often that solid color English Cockers. This year's judge is known to both Cindy and I and our experience is that he really likes a nice solid colored (Solid black or solid red dog or bitch). So Cindy has been trying to figure out of the ten dogs eligible, who are all very nice, which if any of the owners of the solids are going to actually show up. You can't win if you don't show up. But it is an expensive drive if you know the odds are stacked against you to begin with. I had told her I would keep her company if she decided to go as pay backs for her coming down those two years in a row with Josef and I. It helps on the long drive and to split expenses.
Good morning, Tina. Always nice to see your posts. I remember that "back in the day" when I was doing dog showing with my home-bred Staffords that there was a three-day show that I almost decided not to enter because I knew (or thought I knew) the second-day judge probably wouldn't put up my dogs. Finally, since I was going to be there for three days anyway (the shows were away from home), I decided to go ahead and enter the second day anyway. On the morning of this show that I almost didn't enter, there was a change - the scheduled judge was unable to attend for some reason or another, and another judge was to judge my breed instead.
LOL. A stroke of luck, really - this new judge had put up my dogs in the past, and on this day (out of a fairly large entry!) she put up my bitch as BOB and her son as BOS! It was an exciting, fun - and pretty surprising day. I hope you do well at the show/s, should you decide to attend.
As you know, Tina, anything can happen at a dog show.
Best of luck on whatever you decide.
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Another thing I have been chewing over for the last several days. Probably I should just keep my mouth shut (or my typing fingers stilled), but when did that ever stop me?
This has to do with the socialization of dogs, as mentioned in a couple of earlier posts (not Tina's).
Yes, for sure, socialization plays a major part in dog behavior, and also in dog social interaction. But socialization is not the whole story. Here is the short version: purebred dogs - all purebred dogs - have been selectively bred for some
centuries to perform a particular "task" (whatever that task might be).
So, generally speaking, certain behaviors are set, because they are "in the genes".
Thus, no amount of socialization is going to completely eliminate in-bred behaviors (perhaps - and only perhaps - moderate such behaviors slightly): extensive socialization will not eliminate a herding dogs inbred desire to herd (think Border Collie), a retriever's desire to retrieve, a terrier's desire to. . . well, not to act like a terrier
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A great many problems that people have with their dogs - that sometimes cause them surrender their dogs to shelters - is that people don't understand that the "bad" behavior exhibited by their dogs is precisely the behavior that their chosen breed was selectively bred to do over some centuries.
I'll take this a step further. Dogs are not people (obviously); they perceive the world in a totally different way - by scent, more than by sight. And, again, much of their behavior is determined by their genes.
My sweet Joe boy (a Staffordshire Bull Terrier - if you like, Google this breed if you are interested in knowing what Staffords were originally bred to do) is calm, polite, obedience trained and extremely well-socialized. People that see us out together on our daily walks with their own dogs in tow often comment on his obvious happy demeanor (my vet loves him), and invite me to let him off-leash so that he can romp with their dog - "After all", these people happily exclaim, "They could both let off some steam".
This will never happen, because I love my Joe so well.
The chances are, both dogs would have a happy, exhausting, romp - and all would be well.
BUT. . . They might not. Not knowing the behavior and propensities of the
OTHER dog (not to mention that of the owner), with myself very clearly knowing, and understanding, the genetic makeup of my sweet Joe (I have owned Staffordshire Bull Terriers for more than 40 - yes, forty - years) this, for me, is always a no-go, and I always politely decline. And walk on.
Sometimes this seems to offend people, and I will get a parting shot (or two, or three), something along the lines of: "What's the matter with you?? My dog is friendly, wouldn't hurt a fly!! The exercise would be good for both of them!".
I just keep walking. If there are any parting shots like the above, I just pretend that I don't hear, or if the shots continue I might turn and smile and give a brief shrug and a wave - and keep on walking.
It always totally puzzles me that complete strangers seem to think that they know my own dog better than I know him myself.
Have a nice day, everyone.
Anne