Last Wednesday of July

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Re: Last Wednesday of July

Postby Cudedog » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:20 pm

OregonLuvr wrote:
Cudedog wrote:
Not sure where we go from here. . . but it is worrisome, to say the least. :(

Anne


Simple answer......................NOWHERE LOL

I am going to be back to keeping my bubble small. Have to got to Medford next week for eye doc appts but they are all masked up as well as anyone entering their building.


Well. . . Karen. . . looks like you are spot on.

Current bad news coming out from the CDC:
"CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated"

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm?s_cid=mm7031e2_w

and

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

Not good. Not good at all.

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Re: Last Wednesday of July

Postby OregonLuvr » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:23 pm

Well no one said that we could not get Covid, we certainly can, even vaccinated fully. We can also be unknown carriers if exposed but not symptomatic. Reading the article not that many were seriously ill, nobody died, and a small percentage were hospitalized. WELL, I will take those odds. I knew when I got the vaccine that I could still get ill or be a carrier. Especially when everyone was eager to discard the masks. So for me, masking up is my best option and hopefully others will do the same voluntarily. We shall see. Actually I am enjoying my bubble LOL
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Re: Last Wednesday of July

Postby Cudedog » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:38 am

OregonLuvr wrote:Well no one said that we could not get Covid, we certainly can, even vaccinated fully. We can also be unknown carriers if exposed but not symptomatic. Reading the article not that many were seriously ill, nobody died, and a small percentage were hospitalized. WELL, I will take those odds. I knew when I got the vaccine that I could still get ill or be a carrier. Especially when everyone was eager to discard the masks. So for me, masking up is my best option and hopefully others will do the same voluntarily. We shall see. Actually I am enjoying my bubble LOL


Thanks for your post, Karen. Much appreciated. I agree with all you say here, and I, too, am "enjoying my bubble".

On the other hand, being the worrier that I am (and I AM a worrier!), I find the information posted on the CDC website to be a bit alarming (I'm not gonna say 'hair-on-fire' alarming, but I am maybe thinking it :shock: ).

What this posting on the CDC website seems to suggest is that vaccinated individuals were infected at a MUCH greater rate than un-vaccinated (this includes un-vaccinated, partially vaccinated, or vaccination status unknown) individuals (74% vs. 26%) and that of those five individuals hospitalized, four were vaccinated individuals, and only one was un-vaccinated (80% vs. 20%) .

The article does mention that (quote) "First, data from this report are insufficient to draw conclusions about the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, including the Delta variant, during this outbreak.")

One wonders how this outbreak might have been different than other outbreaks happening around the country.

Then, lower down, CDC publishes this graph (MA DPH on the graph being the Massachusetts Department of Public Health):
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/figures/mm7031e2-F1.gif

Which seems to show that vaccinated individuals were infected at a greater rate than non-vaccinated individuals (this includes un-vaccinated, partially vaccinated, or vaccination status unknown) - at least during this "incident".

I guess the over-all implications of this remain to be seen. But the data presented here by the CDC is certainly "interesting". :(

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