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Postby Getupngo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:32 pm

I was one of the participants in a screaming match at the dog park this week.

I arrived at the park in my golf cart, and proceeded to the gate with my sleight, 13-lb poodle Annie on a leash. Another woman pulled up and out bounded her 40-lb unleashed dog. I have learned at the park that there is a power dynamic between leashed and unleashed dogs; The bigger dog made for Annie and, feeling constrained and threatened, she pushed back. Suddenly the big dog began to REALLY growl and lunge, so I pulled Annie into the air by her harness. Her dog continued to approach growling, and I started yelling for the woman to control her dog. I got inside the gate and she began to scream that my dog "started it." I screamed back that she should have her g-damned dog on a leash, and she bellowed that she will do whatever she wants with her dog.

You need to know that when I'm scared, I grow about three feet and resemble the Hulk. I shouted initially because I was scared for my little hors d'oeuvre. Each time that has happened in the past, the other person usually grabs the loose dog and apologizes. Not here. I took Annie to the "little dog" section of the park and listened to the folks on the other side visit and have a good time. I sat alone and fumed.

The encounter was ugly -- and mutual. But I figured she could handle it. She wasn't some Mormon lady from Provo, she is a loud, outspoken woman from New Jersey. And after venting on the phone with a couple of friends, I let it go.

Fast-forward to the next day. I was sitting in the regular dog section chatting when the big-dog lady arrived. She asked if I was the person from yesterday and I said in a neutral tone that I was, and that I'd like to just move past it. She said she had been upset by our encounter ever since, and demanded, "I don't ever want you to EVER curse at me again." I calmly repeated that I wanted to move on. She kept up with her demand, and replied that I just wanted her to keep her dog on a leash.

"I will do whatever I want with my dog!" she shouted, and kept pushing the "cursing" issue. I got up, told the group I was going to walk Annie around the park so she could "make a deposit."

Then the woman's damned dog came after Annie AGAIN! I let them try to work it out on equal turf. They touched noses, and the dog growled and became aggressive again. So I picked Annie up and retreated to the small-dog section of the park.

The good news is that the leaders of this community dog park were there both times and the president took me aside and said I handled that day's exchange with grace and hoped I'd come back. If there is another incident with that dog (to heck with the woman), I'm going to ask the dog be banned from the park.

Sorry for the long rant. I feel better now. :)
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Re: SCREAMING match at the dog park ...

Postby VickieP » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:05 pm

I think you handled the situation perfectly, I might have added "Have a nice day" to her when she was ranting, just for spite. :twisted:

I've had similar things happen at CG's while walking Weatherby and like you did I was able to pick him up by his harness and keep turning in a circle to keep the other dog/dogs away. Once it was 3 big dogs and I tend to scream No and Stop out of reflex, that always gets attention from other campers, but what the heck, I figure I would do the same if it was a kid.
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Postby mitch5252 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:21 pm

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I, too, think you handled the situation perfectly...a lot nicer than I would have been.
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Postby Getupngo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:50 pm

mitch5252 wrote:..
I, too, think you handled the situation perfectly...a lot nicer than I would have been.
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It was a no-win situation. She came in being the "bad girl" and I let her. It's really hard to fight alone.

I used to attend Al-Anon support groups for relatives and friends of Alcoholics. I learned two good tools on how to deal with alcoholics (or anyone else) trying to pick a fight).

1. The Al-Anon "oh." It is simply a grunt or some kind ("oh" or "hmm") or another short, neutral word to acknowledge you heard whatever is said to taunt one into a fight (which can short-circuit the ever-ready "ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?"). Then no response.

2. "You know, you could be right." That takes the wind out of the baiter's sails and stalls a recurring fight-- even if you're thinking, "but you're NOT!!!"

And then there is the quiet stare and a blink. One of my favorites. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Olive600 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:54 pm

I sure do know the situation you described, and you handled yourself really well. How self-obsessed must a person be to get all hung up in a little swearing--if that even happened--instead of the fact that her dog was off leash when it shouldn't have been? If you want, I'll come beat her up for you. I'll ask Mitch to come, too. :lol:
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Postby Getupngo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:58 pm

I have a guest room!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: SCREAMING match at the dog park ...

Postby mitch5252 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:08 pm

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I'll sic Abby on that mean beast of hers...

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Postby BirdbyBird » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:01 pm

Remington said he would come and help Abby...... :) Stuart said he would rather be swimming and Abby and Annie are on their own... :roll: :? And Janice you are right...not letting them see a reaction to your "buttons" being pushed, is more than most folks can stand..... :lol:
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Postby rvgrammy1953 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:19 pm

Spinner says that he feels your pain...we've had our episode at the "base camp" in June....the good thing about ours is that it was his/her last chance...3 strikes and the dogs is out of there...

You did great, Jan....
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Re: SCREAMING match at the dog park ...

Postby BayouLady » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:20 pm

Janice, you handled it with style, something the other person obviously doesn't have. You said that leaders of the park were there both days, but did either of them address the problem with the problem?

I have heard so many bad stories about dog parks, I'll never bring mine to one. They will be leashed and walked a safe distance from the riff raff
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Postby Azusateach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 4:31 pm

BayouLady wrote:
I have heard so many bad stories about dog parks, I'll never bring mine to one. They will be leashed and walked a safe distance from the riff raff


I'm with you on that one. We will never darken the doors of one, especially a big dog park. Other than the idea, in my book there's nothing good about them.

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Postby Redwahine » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:07 pm

I think you handled it with grace. Better than I would. I carry pepper spray on a little wristlets with my key. I have had to use it more than once to defuse an aggressive dog not on leash charging at us and starting a fight with Tyler, who is on leash. Works great!
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Postby Getupngo » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:11 pm

BayouLady wrote: You said that leaders of the park were there both days, but did either of them address the problem with the problem?

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I couldn't hear ... but the next day I got the sense that there were some words exchanged there after I left. I didn't ask because I don't want to stir the pot. If there is another incident, I hope that dog is outta there.

This is not a public dog park ... it was created and is managed by dog owners here at my retirement community. Ninety-nine percent of the time all goes well. The dogs get along, people pick up after their dogs and all are well behaved -- including the humans.

For the other one percent: You can't fix stupid. :lol: :lol:
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Postby BayouLady » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:32 pm

That's much controlled than the open parks, hopefully she embarrassed herself enough that she won't be back.
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Re: SCREAMING match at the dog park ...

Postby AlmostThere » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:54 pm

Getupngo wrote:
mitch5252 wrote:..
I, too, think you handled the situation perfectly...a lot nicer than I would have been.
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It was a no-win situation. She came in being the "bad girl" and I let her. It's really hard to fight alone.

I used to attend Al-Anon support groups for relatives and friends of Alcoholics. I learned two good tools on how to deal with alcoholics (or anyone else) trying to pick a fight).

1. The Al-Anon "oh." It is simply a grunt or some kind ("oh" or "hmm") or another short, neutral word to acknowledge you heard whatever is said to taunt one into a fight (which can short-circuit the ever-ready "ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME?"). Then no response.

2. "You know, you could be right." That takes the wind out of the baiter's sails and stalls a recurring fight-- even if you're thinking, "but you're NOT!!!"

And then there is the quiet stare and a blink. One of my favorites. :lol: :lol:


My favorite line, and it left a big screaming burly drunk man with his mouth hanging open,is " I'm sorry you feel that way".
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