More thoughts on AT&T
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:41 pm
Thanks to all who posted replies on my other thread.
Since I left out some information that might be useful (and which I began to think about once I calmed down), am starting a new one.
First of all, thanks to those who suggested going to an AT&T store. I'm not sure why, but I didn't think that there was an AT&T nearby to where I live - but, in checking, I found that there is one.
Big Duh. . Had I not lost my temper, perhaps I would have thought of this. Oh well. I will try to return my AT&T equipment to the store tomorrow, rather than shipping it back via UPS. I am DONE with AT&T, and signed up with ComCast yesterday, for half the price at twice the data speed. ComCast had me up and running almost immediately.
Anyway, the way that all this got started was that my AT&T modem, that was about a couple of years or so old, suddenly quit - with no warning, for no discernible reason. The power light was on, but the data lights (indicating internet connection) were not. Tried all of the usual trick to get it to boot, no luck.
So I called AT&T to request a replacement for my two-year-old modem. First mistake. The person I was speaking to admitted that they were in the Phillipines (barely understandable English). And they also said something that I didn't think too much about until later: "Your modem is obsolete. When the modem stops working, it stops working, there is nothing you can do about it and you have to get a new one".
Remember those prophetic words about the "obsolete modem", as you read on.
I'm not going to go over again the many many additional telephone calls I made to AT&T on Saturday, how bad the English was on all of them, how many times I was transferred, and how many times my call was "accidentally" dropped by AT&T, causing me to need call back, yet again, to get back in the telephone line queue in order to be jerked around. I started the phone calls with AT&T at about 8:30 a.m., after about two hours on the phone getting nowhere, went to chat (transcript of which I posted previously) for a few more hours. Still got nowhere.
About five hours out of my life that I will never get back.
Ok, I'm gonna cut to the chase here.
Here's the deal:
1. This modem that I had, the power light would come on - but the lights showing the broadband connection were. . . um. . . let me just say this: they were turned off. The data lights were not lit.
2. AT&T recently purchased Directv, the satellite tv provider. AT&T has been losing money hand over fist on this deal, so they are hurting financially. Big time.
3. Modems, and their configuration, need to be "registered" (recognized) on the AT&T network in order for them to work. Therefore: AT&T knows what kind of modems, and where they are located (they know where you live) on their network.
4. If (not saying this is true - this is pure speculation on my part) but, IF AT&T wished to disable a modem on their network. . . they could disable the data stream to that modem. They could not turn off the power to the modem, which is plugged into the electricity in one's house. . . but they could, theoretically, cause the data stream to quit. Look at it this way: if they need all of your information, including your modem information (you know, the modem that was supplied to you by AT&T in the first place) in order to get your data stream to start. . . how hard could it be to get your data stream to quit? ALSO: watch how fast your data stream quits if you don't pay your bill.
5. Once my new modem was on it's way I received a "Thank you for your new account" email. What?!?!? I hadn't asked for a new account, just a replacement modem. I called AT&T again (call #2 to another barely understandable English speaker) to be informed that my former account ($57.00/mo) was being "upgraded" with the new modem to $70/mo. So my old account no longer existed, and I had absolutely no options whatsoever but to be billed an extra $12/mo for "modem rent". This $12/mo additional modem rent was not mentioned in my original telephone call to request a new modem
Following me so far?
Time to do some speculative math.
According to AT&T's own information:
https://www.att.com/Common/about_us/pdf/att_btn.pdf
AT&T has (and I quote), "15.6 million Internet Connections In Service".
Just for fun, lets think that maybe just a bare 1% of all of these AT&T "internet connections" had a modem like mine, that suddenly, unexpectedly, and unexplainably stopped working.
1% x 15.6 million = 156,000
Ok, 156,000 customers. Now, lets take 156,000 times $12/mo.
156,000 x $12/mo = $1,872,000.
Nice immediate chunk of change, that. An additional one million, eight-hundred seventy-two thousand dollars more for AT&T.
A month.
Two final questions:
1. Do you have your internet service through AT&T?
2. How old is your current AT&T modem?
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Anne
Since I left out some information that might be useful (and which I began to think about once I calmed down), am starting a new one.
First of all, thanks to those who suggested going to an AT&T store. I'm not sure why, but I didn't think that there was an AT&T nearby to where I live - but, in checking, I found that there is one.
Big Duh. . Had I not lost my temper, perhaps I would have thought of this. Oh well. I will try to return my AT&T equipment to the store tomorrow, rather than shipping it back via UPS. I am DONE with AT&T, and signed up with ComCast yesterday, for half the price at twice the data speed. ComCast had me up and running almost immediately.
Anyway, the way that all this got started was that my AT&T modem, that was about a couple of years or so old, suddenly quit - with no warning, for no discernible reason. The power light was on, but the data lights (indicating internet connection) were not. Tried all of the usual trick to get it to boot, no luck.
So I called AT&T to request a replacement for my two-year-old modem. First mistake. The person I was speaking to admitted that they were in the Phillipines (barely understandable English). And they also said something that I didn't think too much about until later: "Your modem is obsolete. When the modem stops working, it stops working, there is nothing you can do about it and you have to get a new one".
Remember those prophetic words about the "obsolete modem", as you read on.
I'm not going to go over again the many many additional telephone calls I made to AT&T on Saturday, how bad the English was on all of them, how many times I was transferred, and how many times my call was "accidentally" dropped by AT&T, causing me to need call back, yet again, to get back in the telephone line queue in order to be jerked around. I started the phone calls with AT&T at about 8:30 a.m., after about two hours on the phone getting nowhere, went to chat (transcript of which I posted previously) for a few more hours. Still got nowhere.
About five hours out of my life that I will never get back.
Ok, I'm gonna cut to the chase here.
Here's the deal:
1. This modem that I had, the power light would come on - but the lights showing the broadband connection were. . . um. . . let me just say this: they were turned off. The data lights were not lit.
2. AT&T recently purchased Directv, the satellite tv provider. AT&T has been losing money hand over fist on this deal, so they are hurting financially. Big time.
3. Modems, and their configuration, need to be "registered" (recognized) on the AT&T network in order for them to work. Therefore: AT&T knows what kind of modems, and where they are located (they know where you live) on their network.
4. If (not saying this is true - this is pure speculation on my part) but, IF AT&T wished to disable a modem on their network. . . they could disable the data stream to that modem. They could not turn off the power to the modem, which is plugged into the electricity in one's house. . . but they could, theoretically, cause the data stream to quit. Look at it this way: if they need all of your information, including your modem information (you know, the modem that was supplied to you by AT&T in the first place) in order to get your data stream to start. . . how hard could it be to get your data stream to quit? ALSO: watch how fast your data stream quits if you don't pay your bill.
5. Once my new modem was on it's way I received a "Thank you for your new account" email. What?!?!? I hadn't asked for a new account, just a replacement modem. I called AT&T again (call #2 to another barely understandable English speaker) to be informed that my former account ($57.00/mo) was being "upgraded" with the new modem to $70/mo. So my old account no longer existed, and I had absolutely no options whatsoever but to be billed an extra $12/mo for "modem rent". This $12/mo additional modem rent was not mentioned in my original telephone call to request a new modem
Following me so far?
Time to do some speculative math.
According to AT&T's own information:
https://www.att.com/Common/about_us/pdf/att_btn.pdf
AT&T has (and I quote), "15.6 million Internet Connections In Service".
Just for fun, lets think that maybe just a bare 1% of all of these AT&T "internet connections" had a modem like mine, that suddenly, unexpectedly, and unexplainably stopped working.
1% x 15.6 million = 156,000
Ok, 156,000 customers. Now, lets take 156,000 times $12/mo.
156,000 x $12/mo = $1,872,000.
Nice immediate chunk of change, that. An additional one million, eight-hundred seventy-two thousand dollars more for AT&T.
A month.
Two final questions:
1. Do you have your internet service through AT&T?
2. How old is your current AT&T modem?
Let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Anne